Why Asante employees get a flu shot

Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
02:24:45
People should be reminded that the CDC's effectiveness rates show 6 out of 10 vaccinated individuals can still get the flu, on average. You can still be infected and pass on influenza if you have been vaccinated.  Just a reminder to not ignore symptoms throughout the flu season.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
40% effectiveness is a failing grade.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
Flu Season	Adj. Overall VE (%)
2004-05                   10
2005-06                   21
2006-07	                  52
2007-08	                  37
2008-09	                  41
2009-10	                  56
2010-11	                  60
2011-12	                  47
2012-13	                  49
2013-14	                  52
2014-15	                   19
2015-16	                  48
2016-17	                  40
2017-18*	                  40

Reference: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/effectiveness-studies.htm
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
Yellow flu shot bands are a Hippa violation---right?
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
There's no personal information on a yellow flu shot band.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
A yellow band displays MY PRIVATE Health Information for all to see. I am bullied, coerced, and shamed into conforming. Apparently HIPPA laws do not apply to employees.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
What happened to an anti-bullying workplace?
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
The Privacy Rule of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act only protects the privacy of the patients, not employees.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
Oh good...then we can look ourselves up in EPIC
Shea Quinn
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
Excellent reminder of why getting a flu shot is so important. Thank you to everyone who shared their stories!
Mike Latusick
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
Even if the flu shot is 1% effective.....it puts me 1% ahead of the game. 40% effective is an outstanding number. Thank you Asante for helping to protect me, my family, my coworkers and my patients.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
We wouldn't accept 40% for tetanus or polio, and I believe the anti-bulling only applies to employees, not administration.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
Maybe these concerns could be addressed during next years Quality Management/Infection Prevention/Control Policy review team. 

Is Asante’s new Flu policy really about patient safety?  Is forcing employees who don’t get vaccinated to wear a mask during flu season effective enough in protecting patient health? Are visitors and patients themselves required to wear masks if they haven’t been vaccinated? 

Also, the employees who receive the flu vaccine are not completely immune to getting the flu. The CDC’s own numbers show that on average the flu vaccine has only been 40% effective over the years (as low as 10%) 1.  That means on average 6 out of 10 vaccinated employees could still get the flu. That 60% of vaccinated employees could unknowingly spread the flu as they are not wearing masks. Shouldn’t everyone be required to wear a mask to truly guard against flu transmission and ensure patient safety? 

A seemingly grey area that adds more confusion, is the line between being an Employee and a Patient. Asante employees are now forced to physically display their personal healthcare choices to the public. Somehow HIPAA has been removed from this policy’s implementation when it is a personal medical decision. 

One last thing not addressed is the financial impact that 90% compliance has for Asante. If 90% compliance increases Insurance reimbursement rates, financial incentives etc. for the organization, shouldn’t the employees solely responsible for the increase be rewarded that dividend?
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
No empirical data to support the assertion that masks prevent flu spread
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
No empirical data was hard to believe... But it's correct, both NIH and CDC have documented that surgical masks are not much protection at all.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
I am unable to get the flu shot due to a genetic condition and with this new policy I feel shamed.  I also feel bullied as I have been approached multiple times about getting the shot from all different levels of staff.  Then feeling pressured into explaining why I can't get it, sharing my health condition.  I can only imagine when patients start asking.  I'm sorry, but the scripted words Asante provided aren't enough.  Additionally, I was pulled aside and informed that my declination will be part of my official employee health record.  I feel that my job is in jeopardy.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
Hopefully the people making decisions regarding this policy, will start asking for input from employees and considering it before issuing a near mandate.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
I am assuming Asante has done their legal homework on this issue.  It has all the ingredients of a class action lawsuit down the road.
Theresa Peplinski FNP Employee Health
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
I think we need to move away from the flu vaccine being regarded as “me-focused” and regard it instead as “patient-focused.”  What about the patient in Oncology battling terminal cancer who would like to hang on long enough to see a new grandbaby next month?  How about the little girl stuck in Peds with Cystic Fibrosis whose greatest wish is to go home for a few days to celebrate Christmas?  What about the patient in Rehab fighting to walk again after a debilitating stroke?  These are all fictitious examples, and yet there are real life patients in very similar circumstances all around us fighting for their lives.  If you don’t think a simple case of the flu could quickly wipe out any one of them, you’d be wrong.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
Hazmat suits for all!!
Lindsey Hicks
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
01:16:41
Hi all. This is Lindsey from the video...Thank you to ALL of the employees who are getting their flu vaccine this year! As I mentioned in the video, I get the flu vaccine because my mom is battling stage 4 cancer and I want to help keep her healthy, but the flu has affected my family beyond that. My grandmother passed away last year from the flu in the hospital. People do die from the flu! Let's protect our  family, friends, patients and ourselves.
Theresa Peplinski
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
Thank you so much, Lindsey, and to everyone who took part in the video.  It was excellent!
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 23, 2018
I wish we were provided more outcome based research regarding the flu vaccine.  We talk about this type of research to justify everything else we do in healthcare.  Do they know how many, of the 80,000 people who died from the Flu last year, had their flu shots?
  What about the immune response the flu shot can create?  For example, the swine flu vaccine in 2009 causing Narcolepsy in some children, Guillain Barre Syndrome,etc.  The effectiveness of multi-year flu vaccinations
   I would just appreciate more information for an informed decision.  Does the flu shot ever help prevent Flu A H3N2? Which apparently is what most people die of.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 24, 2018
I would like to know how much Asante stands to gain monetarily if they meet the Healthy People 2020 goal of 90% of it's employees vaccinated.  Through Government incentives and Insurance reimbursement increases. 

Nothing has been communicated by the Administration except "get vaccinated/wear your yellow band", or wear a mask for 3-4 months.

Communication has been very poor. With no employee input/ideas/concerns listened to.
Linda Lamoreau
over 3 years agoOctober 25, 2018
I get the flu shot to protect everyone around me. And yes, I have a lung condition 
and I appreciate everyone that gets their flu shot.
I also want to thank everyone in the video that took part in telling their stories.
Yes, people have died because of the flu, true story.
Josh
over 3 years agoOctober 27, 2018
I'm a NICU respiratory therapist.  Influenza and other viral infections can be deadly to our patient population.  This is a very simple way to save a life.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 29, 2018
Nurse Gives Explosive ‘Flu Shot Speech’ Before CDC Advisory Committee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWzmqe5bwf8

What is horrible about this, is that those who choose to not get the vaccine are shamed and feel threatened of losing their job into anonymity.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoOctober 30, 2018
Follow the money, politicians at every level get paid with kickback, perks and god only knows what else to push this poison on us and to go so far to mandate that we take it.
Anonymous
over 3 years agoNovember 5, 2018
I have never really been for or against the flu shot. It was never something I went out to get on my own, but if offered at the time, I would get it. And as the statistics show, I had a 60/40 shot of being one of the 6 in 10 people that still got the flu. In fact, it happened just this year. Within 2 weeks of getting the shot, I was down with the flu. That said, working at a hospital, its our jobs to promote health and recovery to our patients. And if our patients see us being too afraid/resistant/angered by the idea of getting a flu shot, how can we as medical professionals encourage them to get one? We all know they have the right to decline, but patients do take what the medical professionals tell them to heart. Because they trust our judgment. So if you're angry about having to get one, our patients will pick up on that and more than likely refuse. I'm in no way saying you should have to get one if you don't want to. They offered an alternative (wearing a mask). We all know that neither are full proof, but it's a start. Be happy they even gave us an alternative. 

Chances are everyone will get the flu at some point with or without a flu shot. But, knowing how much the flu sucks, if there's something offering me even a 40% chance that I wont get it? Sign me up. Cause my family and my patients are that important to me.
leanna
over 2 years agoOctober 4, 2019
can I get it in a non injection/nose spray or some other way besides a SHOT????
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